Preview Panels - Charmed #8

Pat Shand:

  • Here’s a little Piper/Prue drama from #8, just as a little gifty sneak peek. I really had no idea the gap between #6 and #7 would be so big. It feels bigger than usual, right? X

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Comments: 64
  • #1

    pruesthebest (Saturday, 11 April 2015 22:50)

    Awww... finally we get to see more prue! Issue 8 looks quite intense. Piper looks shocked here at the way prue is behaving but this is how i remember prue.

  • #2

    AaRoN_89 (Sunday, 12 April 2015 00:09)

    Ba da boom. The thunder box has been opened. It seems that, here, Prue is saying the same thing I thought when in episode 8x22 Patty asked for Prue and Piper little less told her to shut up and for her attitude in general. Nobody cares about Prue at this point? Something implausible in Piper, her relationship so close with her sister and everything she suffered when she left.
    I love watching how this issue has not been swept under the carpet and writers use these sensitive issues, filling the gaps that are not mentioned in the show and exposing the characters to their deepest questions and internal processes.
    I really like the drawing of Piper, her ajar mouth and poker face, as well as having a deja vu of the original character of Prue and see the explosion after so long containing everything she kept inside.
    Desiring also see the explosion of Piper and her response. Great topic. Thanks for the advancement Pat.

  • #3

    chloefan03 (Sunday, 12 April 2015 01:04)

    finally we see Prue exploding and saying to Piper what she deserves to hear. I'm really happy, Prue's my all time favorite character ever, thanks to Pat she's making an amazing come back, much better than during season 9 were i had the impression that Piper was pretty unfair and bossy with Prue, especially during issue 22 and 23.

  • #4

    pruesthebest (Sunday, 12 April 2015 01:44)

    I looked at this and i immediately felt what prue was feeling. It actually takes me back to "all hell breaks loose". Honestly, prue wasn't suppose to die but the fact that it happened, makes you think. Prue have every right to feel what she's feeling and maybe they will explore that more this season. Piper was never that good at filling the role of the eldest sister. Prue perfected it and out of all the sisters, i related to her passion for her family the most. It died when she died and i feel the comics reviving prue has revived the fire i have for this beloved character.

  • #5

    pruesthebest (Sunday, 12 April 2015 01:51)

    Maybe piper will express how hard it is to see prue after 5 long years and how hard it's been on her during her time as the oldest. They can't leave the other two out. I would like to see how all of them try and deal with the same drama like in "power outage". Will it also effect their powers since their bond as sisters is divided making them vulnerable to demonic attacks?

  • #6

    p3nathan (Sunday, 12 April 2015 02:39)

    I'm still very curious to see what happened between seasons 9 and 10 to bring all this on.

    I'm glad Prue is finally going to express herself. Being dead for so long and then being isolated in the Nexus, it's going to take a toll.

    I hope the other sisters get involved too and Prue makes her feelings clear to all three. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Prue is venting her frustration to anyone, but it was Piper getting it in issue 2 as well. I can't help but wonder why she seems to be the only one getting flack when there are two other sisters who from what we've seen thus far, seem to have paid even less attention to Prue than Piper has. Unless the rift is something that has happened between these two specifically... but that's not the impression I got in issue 5.

    Anyway, Prue's story has me interested most at the moment and I love a bit of family drama. So very much looking forward to this.

  • #7

    p3nathan (Sunday, 12 April 2015 02:44)

    Also, Prue must be having an identity crisis. Even if she was living with her sisters again, it'd be a big adjustment getting her life together again after about 7 years being dead. But she's ended up in a different body, with all these new powers, she doesn't know exactly what kind of being she is and she's living alone in the Nexus! Talk about overwhelming.

  • #8

    Marcpo3 (Sunday, 12 April 2015 03:12)

    What i cant wait is to see pipers response, pipers really feisty aswell not soo much a push over, perhaps prue might hear something she might not like, it can go either way. Its a adjustment perhaps the sisters guard is up so they dont get close to prue only to lose her again. I thought piper did well as the oldest. If paige got the power of telekinesis (prues power) would that mean they were/is sharing it?considering only one can have it to complete the power of three.

  • #9

    pruesthebest (Sunday, 12 April 2015 03:29)

    Paiges power seem to be more of like a teleportation than telekinesis. Which is why her powers isn't as strong as prue's or even pipers for that matter.

  • #10

    AaRoN_89 (Sunday, 12 April 2015 05:14)

    In the pilot episode, Prue moves the milk to her cup with telekinesis without there being a linear movement, exactly what Paige does but without the extravagance of the orbits. I think it´s the only time it showed but I imagine that eventually Prue could move objects through the space, or, teleportation as @pruesthebest says.

  • #11

    scott21 (Sunday, 12 April 2015 06:01)

    Finallyyyy!!!! But its weird for me too that Prue only tals with Piper. Last time when they giv her the atheme Phoebe and Paige stayed in another room, like they didnt even care.

  • #12

    pruesthebest (Sunday, 12 April 2015 06:20)

    I believe she's mad with them all. With her being in the nexus of the all alone and having no outside contact especially with her sisters. @p3nathan is right! It is quite overwhelming. She feels isolated and i believe her dying had some sort of effect on her and now that she is back it seems like no one cares. Well, "change" is coming and i'm ready. It's going back to its roots with the story arcs.

  • #13

    fxrocks (Sunday, 12 April 2015 13:57)

    'But you don't look at me like I'm you're sister'. It should be 'YOUR' sister, right ? Or am I missing something ?

  • #14

    p3nathan (Sunday, 12 April 2015 15:07)

    Ooops. Yep, you're right.

  • #15

    pruesthebest (Sunday, 12 April 2015 18:34)

    I have noticed that error too. Idk how they missed this. I had to reread to make sure my eyes weren't playing tricks on me.

  • #16

    Pat Shand (Sunday, 12 April 2015 18:37)

    That's on the list to be fixed! This was a super early proof, and isn't off to print yet. It's going to go through two or three more tweaks before it's off to the printers in two weeks. Sometimes, your eyes just glaze over something.

  • #17

    Julie (Sunday, 12 April 2015 18:52)

    I'm surprised the editor didn't catch that error.

  • #18

    LeoVzla (Sunday, 12 April 2015 19:41)

    Uh oh... it seems like we're getting into the dramatic part of the season, Do you really think that Prue could play an important part on being "the big bad of the season" that Pat mentioned a few interviews ago?

  • #19

    scott21 (Sunday, 12 April 2015 19:52)

    I think they should have used prue long time ago! In season 8 Brad could have been make a storyline like this even without Shannen. It would have been far more interesting than Billy. But honestly a simple pen would have been more interesting as a big bad than Billy in season 8...

  • #20

    pruesthebest (Sunday, 12 April 2015 20:41)

    But why would they bring prue back just to make her the big bad? That doesn't even make sense. It would be quite redundant as we have already had that happen with billie/christie. I sure hope that's not the route they are planning on taking with prue. Then it would defeat the purpose of bringing her back. I think she deserves more than that. She's one of the original main characters and should have a happy ending. I rather not assume they are taking her down that route. I feel they are doing a good job with what they're doing with prue and it's been a long time since we have seen this type of drama between the sisters.

  • #21

    p3nathan (Sunday, 12 April 2015 20:41)

    I doubt Prue will be the big bad, however I do wonder what will happen to the Nexus if completely snaps. If it gets darker and stormier the more depressed she becomes, I wonder what would happen if she lost control. Perhaps the Nexus would become vulnerable to the Old Ones.

  • #22

    p3nathan (Sunday, 12 April 2015 20:42)

    That was meant to be "what will happen to the Nexus if SHE completely snaps"

  • #23

    pruesthebest (Sunday, 12 April 2015 20:45)

    Right!!! Will it be like how it was when she had the empath powers like in "primrose empath"? We shall see how this developes.

  • #24

    paul (Sunday, 12 April 2015 20:45)

    i think piper is copping most of it mainly because shes the oldest out of the other three. prue was always closest to piper, she was her little sister, not her baby sister, and lets face it, phoebe was kind of a brat growing up, unlike the other two,. not saying prue didnt have issues but phoebe did drive prue crazy a lot of the time, which only really improved with them becoming the charmed ones. piper was always closest to prue, and also generally always took her side as well. piper was also the one who had to replace the part that prue prided herself on, being the big sister. paige replaced her powers, replaced the witch part, but the thing as she sees as her reason for being, being the big sister, was the job piper then had to fulfill. that, combined with the isolation from the one she was always closest too, combined with her isolation from phoebe and paige and then everything else on top of that, would be the sort of thing to set prue off and being the one whos been closest to prue all their lives and was most devastated by her death, piper would be the one on the receiving end
    paiges powers are weak because of two reasons, one, she was part whitelighter which meant the pacifist genes wouldnt be quite as demon vanquishing gung ho as prues would be. and on top of that, she was the youngest, the oldest is always the strongest and it works down from there

    which is another point, if prue was just prue and no nexus stuff, who woul be the strongest? would prue be strongest as she is the eldest? or would piper be strongest because shes technically the eldest?

  • #25

    josephspice (Sunday, 12 April 2015 20:57)

    I'm just not feeling this Prue...

  • #26

    pruesthebest (Sunday, 12 April 2015 21:29)

    @paul: had Prue still had her powers she would be the strongest out of the four. Hell, Even without her original powers, Prue is still pretty powerful. And you mean other two? Prue is still the eldest out of the other three, but I think what we have seen in season 9, where it stated that Prue had a hard time adjusting to her death it looks like we are seeing it and maybe it will be explained more in detail this season.

  • #27

    p3nathan (Sunday, 12 April 2015 22:16)

    I can understand Prue being closer to Piper and therefore perhaps saying it to her first... but I still think she should be saying it to all three of them at some point. I get that Piper is the eldest and was the one closest to Prue growing up; but let's face it, they're all grown ass women in their 30s at this point. So I personally think they should all be held accountable.
    But I do see what you mean.

  • #28

    Aaron_89 (Sunday, 12 April 2015 22:35)

    @Paul, to answer that question we must ask, Prue remains a charmed one? At first I thought power lay not in the body but in the essence / soul of the witch. Because that would explain why Penny was still retaining her power of telekinesis after death.
    I always imagined that magical component was something formless accompanying this essence and not the body, which was evolving with each incarnation and taking shape depending on the witch and it crystallized in one way or another according to her personal predisposition.
    But after seeing the doctor, who helped Piper, got their powers mingling their blood, I do not know what to think. This is a little confusing.
    If what makes you be a charmed one is the power that comes from the bloodline, then Prue no longer be the oldest charmed one. But that does not mean, necessarily, that Piper is the strongest one. I agree about why she turns the attention to Piper more directly than the other two.
    Some time ago I've been thinking that Prue also may be involved in some way with the great bad of this season. If so, I just hope that everything ends well and it serves to strengthen their relationships. I would not want to lose Prue again, she was/is my favourite.

  • #29

    Tai (Sunday, 12 April 2015 22:41)

    Why isn't Phoebe a part of any of this? Regardless of the tension her and Prue had growing up they were no doubt very close and protective over each other. I can understand Paige not really having any issues with Prue because she's never had a relationship with her but i think Phoebe should be there whenever Prue is around

    I never liked how the writers wrote Phoebe after Prue's death. She seemed to get over it very quickly and wouldn't even mention her as much as Piper. They should've written her to mourn more than two episodes.

    I hope they're not pulling from the alleged tension between Shannen and Alyssa as the driving force of their relationship. Shannen and Alyssa may not get along but Prue and Phoebe absolutely loved each other

  • #30

    pruesthebest (Sunday, 12 April 2015 23:03)

    @tai: you are right. I believe that's why I stopped watching. The dynamics changed and the characters just wasn't the same. But if you think about it, phoebe always hidden her emotions. She was grieving in other ways. Piper has always felt insecure compared to prue and phoebe who were both regarded as super witches due to the both of them getting involved in physical combat so I can understand why the attention was on piper. Being the eldest, especially considering how much prue has done, is tough shoes to fill. And @paul I understand what you are saying but regardless of her not being in the body of a Warren witch doesn't necessarily mean she's not the eldest. She's in the body of another witch but she's still the eldest. Remember, when she died the power of 3 was recreated with the introduction of paige. Which was to never happen but it did, anything is possible now because the prophecy was 3 sisters, not four. Who knows what new twist will happen now that all four are alive and kicking.

  • #31

    TomTom (Sunday, 12 April 2015 23:47)

    Drama! Finally! :D I like it when the sisters are getting in trouble with eachother, that's realistic and touching. It's sad that the TV series didn't get too deep to this kind of theme, like the thing with Phoebe as Evil Queen or Paige with her doubts about the Avatars. It was always just a one-to-three-episodes-theme... But no long-lasting event.

    In my opinion Prue is talking to Piper, because she's the person, Prue's most disappointed about. They had the strongest relationship of them all.
    She's not talking to Paige because...yeah, Paige has never known her old ego. They never had this special kind of relationship. It last a long time that Piper and Phoebe really accept Paige as a truly family member, specially for Piper. So it's logical, that Paige and Prue need time too, and they know eachother nearly two years...
    And she's not talking to Phoebe, because they never hat this depth too. There was a time they really hated each other. They didn't even talk to each other. So this bond is less stronger than the bonds between Piper and Prue.
    And so... Prue is disappointed that of all people it's Piper, who dropped her down.
    Maybe she felt betrayed by her biggest love...

    And the other theme:
    In my opinion the sisters strenghts in powers are nearly the same. I think it's ridiculous to say, that one sister has stronger powers than the others. I see the difference not in their powers, but in their characters. Healing could be just as strong as molecular combustion. To have visions could be more helpful than astral projection. It depends on how the power is used.
    Of course: Piper has strong powers! Really strong powers. And she is the only one, to have only active and fighting powers. But that doesn't mean that this powers are better or stronger than the more emotional and passive powers of Phoebe.
    It's comparable to the remaing witch powers: spell casting, scrying and potions. None of them is the one and only. It depends on the person that is using it. Piper is the head for potion making. Because she knows cooking very well and has a feeling for ingredients and recipes. Phoebe is the master of spells due to her writing skills and her knowledge of the perfect use of words. And Paige is the best in scrying because of her intuition and whitelighter part.
    So it always depends on the persons character and the readiness to use the power.
    I think (if I have to rate) Prue has the strongest powers. But only because she has the strongest character. Piper has the second strongest powers. But again: only because she has the second strongest character. Paige comes third and Phoebe fourth. Not because she has the weakest powers, but because she is the most sensitive sister and using her powers less than the others.

    Damn, I'm sorry for this crowd of words and my bad English...
    Can't wait to see more of this sister quarrel.

  • #32

    p3nathan (Monday, 13 April 2015 00:33)

    I'll just have to agree to disagree in regards to the sisters' relationships.

    Paige and Prue, fair enough, they just met. But I still don't see why Phoebe should be let off the hook just because she and Prue had their issues at one point.
    When Phoebe came home and their powers unbound, Prue and Phoebe started to rebuild their relationship and once they had, they seemed just as sisterly as Prue and Piper did to me. Not saying they never argued or had issues again, but that doesn't mean they love each other any less or aren't as close.
    Also, it's not as if the sisters are exactly the same as they were at the start of the series. Prue is generally more easy going and communicative, Phoebe is far more responsibly and grounded... they've come a hell of a long way from the two contrasting personalities bickering over Roger in the pilot.

    As for who's the most powerful... I don't think you can really compare Prue at this point. She's not a witch, nor a Charmed One, she's something else entirely. She seems to have a huge amount of power, but then she pays a pretty huge price for it.

  • #33

    Barron (Monday, 13 April 2015 01:26)

    I agree that at least Phoebe should be getting yelled at too, because she hardly mourned over Prue. But I think Prue is more disappointed by Piper who was the most touched by her death. I think Prue feels that she has sacrificed so much for her sisters and others and that it's unfair to her to be isolated and being ignored by her loved ones. She has to stay in the Nexus and has a lot of power and she doesn't even know what kind of being she is. AND the one person who was by her side (COLE) while she was getting ignored by her family is dead and he's not coming back. It's all too much on her. I mean, who would want to live life like that? It's depressing and honestly, I hope Prue gets her happy ending. She deserves one for sacrificing so much of her life for others.

  • #34

    Alice (Monday, 13 April 2015 08:47)

    Phoebe should be there, if it wasn't for her caring for Cole and going to the underworld to begin with, Prue would be alive.

    But I get why with Piper, as she was close with her more.

    As for Paige, she is in the middle, but I'd want to see them two together. Like they barely even get to have a moment together.

  • #35

    Miia (Monday, 13 April 2015 12:41)

    I think too that Piper and Prue had the strongest bond between all of the sisters. And for me it's the best choice to pick Piper for this dispute.
    But by the way: Prue is saying "YOU" in the panels. She's not using any name. Maybe all sisters are arround but we can just see Piper because of the tiny choice of pictures. I don't think so, but it could be possible.

  • #36

    josephspice (Monday, 13 April 2015 13:08)

    I don't think it's fair to say that Prue would still be alive if Phoebe wasn't in the Underworld. It's not Phoebe's fault.

  • #37

    p3nathan (Monday, 13 April 2015 14:25)

    I admit I'm not the biggest Phoebe fine, but yeah I agree.
    It may have been inconsiderate timing for Phoebe to leave when she did, but she's no more to blame for what happened than Prue and Piper are; going out in the middle of the street in broad daylight to kill a demon... TWICE!!

  • #38

    pruesthebest (Monday, 13 April 2015 15:55)

    Every last one of them were at fault. Prue, piper and phoebe should have focused more on vanquishing shax then afterwards phoebe should of concerned herself with cole. Dr. Griffiths and prue would still had been alive and there probably wouldn't have been an introduction of paige. Either way, phoebe still would have became the queen of the underworld in season four with or without prue being alive. It would had been MORE interesting, seeing as though their past lives were fighting when anton corrupted phoebe. Maybe we would have seen prue and phoebe both develope new powers.

  • #39

    Aaron_89 (Monday, 13 April 2015 18:07)

    None of them was at fault. Go after demons in full the city, this was nothing new. It is the primary instinct to protect an innocent and Shax was not an easy demon to contain or invoke. Phoebe down to the underworld only because they believed Shax destroyed and If she had not made a covenant with the source, Piper had finished dead and Prue with a bullet in the face. All of them improvised in extreme circumstances, so nobody has any fault. It would be interesting to know what would have happened next.
    Anyway, one of the key messages of the show is that everything happens for a reason and everything happened as it was for give us, for me, the best season finale of all.

  • #40

    pruesthebest (Monday, 13 April 2015 18:26)

    Not for me. I wasn't exactly happy with prue dying. It was a pretty intense finale but it didn't make sense at all. IMHO they were all responsible. Had phoebe read the spell with the other two, there'd be no major character deaths. Saving cole should of been the focus of season four and vanquishing shax together should be the main focus. They spell required All 3 of them so had phoebe not gone to the underworld, Prue or piper wouldn't had to expose themselves outside to where chaos followed. Piper nor prue would have been dead. And ultimately prue wouldn't have died. That's the point you're missing. Phoebe was very irresponsible and should have thought things out but she let her desire for cole hold power over her and wind up losing her eldest sister because of it.

  • #41

    pruesthebest (Monday, 13 April 2015 18:45)

    Another thing, I'm sure phoebe can feel what prue is feeling since she's an empath and I wonder how those overwhelming emotions is effecting her. Maybe that's why she was in the other room when they brought the athame to her. Or maybe phoebe sensed prue's emotions and told the other two about it.

  • #42

    Aaron_89 (Monday, 13 April 2015 19:09)

    The spell did not require the power of three. Prue and Piper destroyed Shax, they did so only after being exposed because previously they believed they had done. Phoebe saw that the danger was gone, so she followed with her second outstanding issue, Cole. There was not lack of coherence in the episode, indeed, I found it very well written, intense, dramatic and with a final with much suspense.
    Independently that Phoebe had stayed on the surface, the reason for the death of Prue was Shannen, not Phoebe. Because Prue had lived in the fourth season, regardless of how had elapsed at the end of the third.
    For me it is unfair to blame Phoebe. I would have like to see in her more grief for her sister but I think the writers put all that weight on Piper to focus in her evolution as the older in basis of it.

  • #43

    josephspice (Monday, 13 April 2015 19:52)

    All four of them are crucial to Charmed. Yeah I understand that Prue dying kind of sucked; but, without her death, I don't think season 4 would've been as good as it was. Season 4 was the best in my opinion because it presented us with a difficult transition. It disrupted the dynamic in an interesting way. Every episode was entertaining and refreshing. Sadly, after season 4, I think the show started to suffer. Seasons 5-8 just weren't as good as the earlier four seasons.

  • #44

    pruesthebest (Monday, 13 April 2015 20:02)

    If shax was destroyed as you say, why then did he come back for dr. Griffiths at the hospital? It required all three to perform that spell to vanquish shax. They were down to two witches. We know what was going on behind the scenes. That isn't the focus of the argument. The spell weakened shax when phoebe performed it and because of her lack of concern for the bigger threat, she came off as nonchalant and forusing on her desire for cole. There wouldn't of been a reason for prue and piper following shax using their powers ineffectively, might I add. Shax was destroyed at all. Even while being exposed to the world, shax decided to go after dr. Bo Griffiths and even still, he was not destroyed.

  • #45

    Miia (Monday, 13 April 2015 20:04)

    I think we all have to look at the stories in a more objective way. That's difficult, but a subjective angle isn't very helpful. No Prue-lover would admit that it was good or logical that she had died. No Paige-lover would admit that it was unnecessary to introducing her. And so on.
    And we have to keep all the external circumstances in mind.
    In an absolute objective way, the writers have done nearly the best in dealing with the exit of Shannen. They saved us from cancelling the show after its third season and gave us another five wonderful years with Charmed.

  • #46

    Tai (Monday, 13 April 2015 20:09)

    I think Phoebe should've left Cole for a while once Leo told her that they were exposed just to check on her sisters and try to help in any way possible. And Shax required the power of 3 spell that's why he was finally vanquished by Piper Phoebe and Paige. When Prue and Piper said the spell, he disappeared differently

    @Pruesthebest I like what you said about Phoebe being an Empath and probably wanting to distance herself from Prue's pain and her own grief of losing a sister. Hopefully Pat utilizes Phoebe's power in order to heal all four of them emotionally with all they've been through. Heal Prue who had to watch her sisters grow without her, Piper for having to take on all of the responsibility, Phoebe whose worst fear was losing a sister and Paige for her inferiority complex towards Prue.

    I would like to see Phoebe use her powers in more creative ways as well. I love levitation but I think she should be more formidable than just levitating. When is she going deviate someones powers or drive someone insane like with what happened to Prue when she became an empath?

    The writers should've done better for Phoebe mourning Prue because her absolute worst fear came to life. She cried more over Pure in Be Careful What You Witch For than her actual death

  • #47

    pruesthebest (Monday, 13 April 2015 20:13)

    Shax demise was in charmed again WITHOUT prue because at that point she had died. Season 4 wasn't that good to me because it was missing something or should I say someone. It's not just the introduction of paige but the changes in piper and phoebe were noticeable and very disappointing. I couldn't bare to watch another episode as EVERYTHING about the show changed and I have seen other shows like charmed that killed off a major character or two and brought in a new character and was impressed. Charmed didn't do that. Everything felt rushed and wasn't for it at all.

  • #48

    pruesthebest (Monday, 13 April 2015 20:25)

    I agree @tai it's just that these comics are correcting the errors in the show. This feels more natural than season 4. That's a big adjustment for anyone who was a prue-lover to see their character replaced with another. All I'm saying is it wasn't the same. Yes, I'm not fond of paige but the way she was treated by piper and phoebe in later seasons was awful. It was like she was trying to fit in with them and they still weren't as accepting. Like one good example, phoebe getting into an actual catfight with paige, I thought that was a bit unusual since there wasn't no magic involved in that particular episode. I didn't FEEL the family aspect of the show. It would of been a big difference had Prue died and you can see them grieving, trying to adjust to their new roles while not changing entirely in personalities. It wasn't just that Prue died, it was that the show diverted from what it was originally that changed for me. I couldn't stomach any of the changes. Like Holly Marie combs said, it felt like a new show to her and it felt that way to me too!

  • #49

    Aaron_89 (Monday, 13 April 2015 21:01)


    Prue/Piper: "Evil wind that blows, that which forms below, no longer may you swell, death takes you with this spell."
    (Shax blows up and disappears. The people watching gasp and let out little screams.)
    Piper: Now that was a vanquish.

    Piper: And do what exactly? You can't defeat Shax, not without the Power of Three.
    Phoebe: But you and Prue did. (Piper sighs.)
    Piper: That's because Prue was the strongest. Trying to do it without her would be suicide.
    Phoebe: Maybe so, but I got that premonition for a reason, Piper. That girl is our innocent, so we have to try and save her.

    Deaths in both cases were differently, maybe because the power of three spell was stronger, but Prue and Piper annihilated Shax.

  • #50

    pruesthebest (Monday, 13 April 2015 21:12)

    Idk what episode you were watching but they didn't "annihilate" him. He just went poof and was gone, not destroyed, just waiting for the next opportunity to destroy his targeta If he was really "annihilated" he would have been completely vanquished like in charmed again.

  • #51

    jluengo25 (Monday, 13 April 2015 21:19)

    Shax was kill in the alternative timelime in all hell break loose! Prue & Piper did it... Shax was alive in season four because in that timeline Prue & Piper never vanquished him :(

  • #52

    paul (Monday, 13 April 2015 22:03)

    theres a lot of blame to go around for prue dying, other than the stuff with the actresses

    prue and piper should never have gone out into the street to vanquish him, yeah he was a very dangerous demon but they should never have chased him like that, especially without phoebe, it was reckless and as it got worse they were backed into a corner and made worst moves
    phoebe also shouldnt have gone to rescue cole. she knew shax was only banished, and cole, who had caused no end of heartache for her could have waited a while until shax was properly dealt with. like piper said, yeah cole and phoebe loved one another but he was still a fairly morally ambiguous demon at the time, and like she said, phoebe was kind of hedging her bets a lot at such a critial time
    and also, shax. he is the one who killed prue certainly, but he had the same flaw prue and piper did, he should never have attacked in the middle of the street in broad daylight. he wasnt like zankou, barbas etc who could walk around just as an oddly dressed human, he looked different and scary and he made a move in the middle of a street in broad daylight as well, and would have exposed demon kind as well as witch kind

    season four was one of the best in my opinion, the first four were the best with season six and sevens latter halves being just as good as well, it was the change from demons, warlocks etc to fairy tales that shot the show in the foot in my opinion. season six had a novel twist with the good guy actually being the bad guy (and of course chris helped too). season seven was what the show used to be like, a powerful demon, who was a match for the charmed ones, getting into the position to nearly destroy them. season eight suffered from numerous things though, billie being just one

    and as for later seasons when piper and phoebe would side against paige, it was nothing new. in earlier seasons prue and piper tended to side against phoebe, its a sibling thing. but the closeness wasnt there as it was before mainly because paige didnt grow up with them

  • #53

    pruesthebest (Monday, 13 April 2015 22:13)

    Very well said @paul. And I do not agree that shax was killed @jluengo25. He was definitely banished but wasn't killed. Again, it takes three of the girls to vanquish a demon that powerful. He was just weakened. Prue and piper needed phoebe in order for him to be killed/vanquished. Or else piper and phoebe wouldn't have needed paige.

  • #54

    pruefan4life (Tuesday, 14 April 2015 05:27)

    Shax was killed in the original timeline. But it still took the Power of Three. Phoebe cast the spell first, followed by Prue and Piper. Granted there was a delay between the first and second casting, but in the end, all three sisters read the spell.

  • #55

    pruesthebest (Tuesday, 14 April 2015 05:53)

    Oh, I understand what is being said but again shax wasn't killed. It may seem that way but because of the exposure of magic on both sides the source could have ordered shax to cease on attacking because both sides was exposed so I'm sticking to my original opinion. It takes 3 of the sisters to vanquish him and because we seen him disappear doesn't mean he was instantly killed.

  • #56

    TomTom (Tuesday, 14 April 2015 12:11)

    I've watched this episode yesterday evening and have to defend Phoebe a little bit.
    She's reading the spell, she's calling for Leo, so she saves Prue and Piper from dying. Than she assumes, that Shax isn't dead and Prue mentions, that it's possible you need more than one witch. She orders Phoebe to stay with Dr. Griffith at home and runs through the neighborhood with Piper. So it wasn't Phoebes intention to leave her sisters alone. They needed someone to protect the innocent and it was her.
    After defeating Shax Piper mentioned that he's gone. After doubting Prue's agreeing finally. Not until then Phoebe is telling them her plans for visting the Underworld. They're not happy about this, but they let her go. So Phoebe leaves with the belief they vanquished Shax.
    Another hint that they're believing he's dead is the fact, that they send Dr. Griffith away again.
    Badoing, bang, the Charmed Ones are exposed the whole world can see it on TV.
    Leo's coming back and tells the sisters, that Shax couldn't be vanquished. "You'll need the three of you to say the spell." But instead of getting Phoebe back for saying the spell with them, Prue and Piper fight alone again. And this time, they say the spell.
    Technically all three sisters had saying it. And yeah: Shax isn't escaping (like the first time, when Phoebe say it alone) and he's not just clearing away (like the second time) he's totally blowing up. His head flys away, his body gets teared and throws out sparks. Who knows, maybe he is vanquished... he's not coming back after this, till the time is turned back.
    After a lot of drama Phoebe's promising the Source, that she will stay in the Underworld. But her sisters have to be warned. She gave up her life and this saves Pipers and Prues life, they never got shot.
    But the Source didn't warn the sisters. So Shax can attack again and finally kills Prue...

    So I think it's not Phoebos fault by far. It was the betrayal from the Source.
    What's weird is the fact, that Leo doesn't left Underworld immediately after time was turned back. Phoebe can't but he could... But he comes too late... why? :/

    By the way, the whole fighting-in-the-neighborhood sequence is absolutely odd... in plot and dialogue...

  • #57

    lich (Tuesday, 14 April 2015 12:19)

    Well, that was fun. I meaning reading all those comment on just one picture. And the issue is not even out yet.
    And I enjoy people blaming that and that. One blames Phoebe, the other Piper and Prue, really great. :D
    Last time something like this happened was when Prue said Power of Three wasn't as powerfull, because she is not in it.
    Well, you may hate me for this, but: THINGS JUST HAPPEN, WHAT THE HELL. Prue died and Paige came. So what? I loved the show with both of them. I loved it when it changed course in season five, even with all the mistakes, flaws and plot holes.
    Take it as everything happens according to the Great Design. Prue died because it was i GD and for the same reason she returned. It was all part of Grand Design.
    And Paige coming into show is not as bad as when in Grey's Anatony Mark and Lexie died and they bring four plane and boring interns. That was lot worse.

    Also, did anyone thought how is it possible, that FOUR sisters could have POWER OF THREE? I mean yes, they didn't know about Paige, but they were four from the very beginning. So, if the power of Warren line was to culminate with three sisters, why did it happen with four?

  • #58

    Aaron_89 (Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:59)

    Exactly @lich, because Paige was a character invented at the moment. That even puts on a commitment to the original prophecy. Prue was not destined to die, as a script or story, in the middle as it happened. Or if it had happened later, it would be to continue with a purpose in history, following the theme but always including they three and not eliminating the character. I always doubted whether all of them come alive at the end of the show or if there would be some sacrifice but reaching the final outcome. So blame the characters for that, I see it useless, because that plot twist had nothing to do with the characters.
    For me, Rose did a good job as Paige, she gave a lot of freshness to the series and the fourth season with the third, they are my favorite. But I feel like @josephspice, that after season 4, the show declined sharply in relation to what it was.
    But I love the direction they are returning in comics. Everyone involved in them do a great job.

  • #59

    p3nathan (Tuesday, 14 April 2015 18:44)

    Fans make theories, discuss stories and voice their opinions: positive and negative. That's hardly unusual.
    If you want to go: "It happened because it happened because it happened" or "it happened because the writers said so and that actor quit", well then okie dokie... but some of us like to take into account the part the characters played in those in-universe events, what led to them etc.
    That's kinda what discussing a story is all about. ;D

  • #60

    Julie (Wednesday, 15 April 2015 19:14)

    I'm tired of people thinking that Prue was not meant to die. I just think Prue could not except her fate like her other relatives and Andy did when they died. I'm guessing that's part of her pride.

  • #61

    Miia (Thursday, 16 April 2015 13:39)

    And I don't know WHY so many fans think that Prue was not meant to die.... It was never mentioned or prophecied that the Charmed Ones would live for decades. It was just prophecied that there'll be three sisters who build the Power of Three, that's all. And this it what happend. Three sisters, they become the Charmed Ones, build the Power of Three. Prophecy fullfilled!

  • #62

    pruesthebest (Friday, 17 April 2015 03:41)

    For starters @julie and @mia I'm going off of what was mentioned in season 9 where it clearly states that it was meant for prue, piper, phoebe. It was not meant to be passed on to anyone. That's the facts and If you don't like it then talk it up with those involved with charmed. Idk what to tell you.

  • #63

    Marcpo3 (Friday, 17 April 2015 14:50)

    If the prohecy calls for three sisters and there happens to be four technically they shouldnt be the charmed ones so if original three were declared as charmed while in the background there was a fourth sister then whether paige was found or not it wasnt meant to be for her, but if paige is taken over prue power how come prue has it so there sharing so they are all po3 even tho there four unless you say it comes from paige whitelighter side.

  • #64

    Julie (Friday, 17 April 2015 18:09)

    But Prue I thought gave up her charmed powers voluntary so she is no longer a charmed witch back in season 9 Marcpo3?