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charmingcharmed (Wednesday, 10 February 2016 19:40)
omg this issue was sooooo good
Henry (Wednesday, 10 February 2016 19:53)
The last page is just perfect and creepy! I couldn't believe it! But it's just me or Prue and Piper seemed a couple?? Ahaha I loved this issue!
charmingcharmed (Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:00)
calling it- prue is going to infect the sisters- thats why they are going to be effigys next issue- thats why prue is grinning and pipers a puppet/doll - i also still think that at the end prue will
be destroyed by the athame
charmingcharmed (Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:01)
by the end of the season-issue #21
charmingcharmed (Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:05)
and the final issue will be them coming to terms about what has happened
41eugoR (Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:48)
So a spoiler detailed summary would be very nice right about now :-)
Bigbear (Wednesday, 10 February 2016 22:56)
@41eugoR: Check out Fandomania's recap
Jluengo27 (Wednesday, 10 February 2016 23:03)
I read the issue... and for the firts time I dont like it... waiting so many years to see Prue´s back and now we have only five more issues to see her in this new way...how her sisters going to stop
her? she is so powerfull now...thats make me think the worse... :(
Five issues left for have the four sister bounding time but now Prue is not Prue anymore, maybe in the end she is going to be ok...the sisters have been possesed so many times in the series and
always in the end are safe but this mean less time too see Prue. With a little lucky by the end of the season shes be back. The real problem is if theres is not a season 11 and Pat is not writing
anything beyond this timeline we have to wait for a series finale, then i dont like it :(
41eugoR (Wednesday, 10 February 2016 23:13)
@Bigbear: Thanks! Will do!
Jean (Thursday, 11 February 2016 03:47)
Prue's gonna die, well everyone on here predicted that forever.
Alice (Thursday, 11 February 2016 03:48)
Prues dying again. That blows.
Drew (Thursday, 11 February 2016 03:50)
Is it true that the reason Is gonna be Prue's end back in the afterlife.
That's a predictable ending *yawn*
pruefan4life (Thursday, 11 February 2016 04:06)
After reading the issue, I was a little disappointed that Prue ended up possessed by Heremus after all. We all saw that coming. I sincerely hope she doesn't die (or worse, have her soul destroyed) at
the end of the season. And I also don't want the remaining issues to be focused on the sisters trying to save Prue, because, well, I want to see Prue kick some more @$$.
What I theorize might happen? Prue moves on to the afterlife, as many of us are thinking, and she is reborn ... as Phoebe's third and final daughter, completing the next Charmed Ones.
pruefan4life (Thursday, 11 February 2016 04:21)
^Also, why I think Phoebe's daughters are the next Charmed Ones: According to the original prophecy, one sister (the eldest) can move things with her mind, the second can stop time (not just "freeze
things"). and the third can see the future. Cupids have powers resembling these three, and Phoebe's daughter, being cupid-witch hybrids, might inherit one each (in addition to their witch powers,
whatever they may be; the novel "Let Gorgons Be Gorgons" suggests that in addition to cupid powers, PJ might actually manifest witch powers as well, and it's only fair to think that her younger
sisters will also).
1. While we haven't seen PJ use telekinesis, we have seen her move things/people with her mind--by beaming.
2. Parker hasn't exhibited powers yet, but to parallel Piper's original power, she might acquire the cupid's power to "slow down time in between heartbeats" (which we saw in season 2).
3. Phoebe's third daughter will be able to see the future (and past) by transporting herself there. We saw Coop do this with his ring, going to the future of an elderly Piper and Leo (and to various
Just my two cents on why Phoebe's daughters are the best candidates for being the next Charmed Ones.
Jluengo27 (Thursday, 11 February 2016 04:22)
I was disappointed too... @pruefan4life see her soul destroyed would be such a waisted chance to see futures plots with the four sisters... and sadly we only have five issues left... I dont want Prue
have childrens and a husband because she has been dead for so many years, but at lest she could finally be alive and find a life by her own (and if we think about that was a principal plot in season
Scott21 (Thursday, 11 February 2016 05:10)
I dont understand why Piper is the only one who have scenes with Prue :( I have been waiting years for a Paige and Prue scene, but now Prue is not Prue and its never gonna happen
Mia (Thursday, 11 February 2016 06:45)
Oh boy Prue is dying again. :(
spiros (Thursday, 11 February 2016 10:39)
guys could you please stop calling the story 'boring' from what we have seen so far it is not boring at all I haven't read the last issue yet but I think that in any case that is such an unfair
word..I don't think Prue is going to get killed by the athame because Pat has mentioned that something can destroy the athame which makes me think that the athame will be destroyed also Pat has also
said that the fans haven't been able to guess any major plot points that means that Prue is not going to die because a lot of us were guessing that for a long time
Bigbear (Thursday, 11 February 2016 11:21)
What I don't get is, what made you guys jump to the conclusion the Prue is possessed?? I don't know what's really going on with Prue and Heremus, but I think it was pretty obvious from how the last
few scenes played out that it's not possession. Maybe that's just me though.
41eugoR (Thursday, 11 February 2016 13:46)
Wow...I've never seen so many 'Prue is going to die' or 'get her soul destroyed' comments 0.o
@ BigBear: While white Nexus Prue and Heremus were fighting, Heremus stings Prue and we could see black veiny lines on her arms. When Old One Knox and Heremus(Prue?) meet up in the end, Knox is
pleasantly surprised that Heremus has the Nexus of all within him. And since in previous issues Prue said that the Nexus of All is her....I guess that's where the conclusion of Prue being possessed
comes from. Also Prue's presence is no longer hurting the sisters.
But I'm not entirely sure if its full on possession or even possession at all. Prue was crying when she was normal and free from the Nexus. Then next scene Prue is with her family having a party, but
then we see Prue is wrecking havoc on the next generation magic students at the same time?
Also Heremus in the end tells Knox that the name 'Heremus' makes him shudder and feel sick and that was another life and he now wants to be called 'Prue'. Kind of like he's reborn into Prue? o.0 You
know like how the Source/Cole thing was in Season 4 after Source's body was destroyed, Source essence went into the void. Now Prue also had a void after having her powers stripped and because of that
the Nexus was hurting her sisters. So maybe Heremus..uh..filled that void...craving within Prue?
But despite being infected or possessed by Source of All Evil, Cole's love for Phoebe couldn't be destroyed(And apparently still couldn't as it lives in Ben). So yeah the cute Prue and Piper sisterly
cuddling at the end could be Heremus feeling Prue's love for sisters while at the same time(or later?) astral projecting and destroying students lives and meeting up with his buddy Knox.
I really need the next issue now!
Henry (Thursday, 11 February 2016 14:40)
What if there's two "Prues"? Maybe the one in the Manor is the "good" Prue; and the one in Knox Academy is the Nexus (that has Patience's physical appearance because Pure/Patience and the Nexus have
been the same thing) infected by Heremus
Bigbear (Thursday, 11 February 2016 16:07)
Yeah that's what I thought too! I'm kind of thinking there might be two Prue out there. Seems weird that after all this time, Piper could be chillin on the couch with a Prue-looking demon and not
know something's wrong.
Scott21 (Thursday, 11 February 2016 19:26)
I think you are in denial with the whole two Prue theory there is only one Prue who has been corrupted
pruefan4life (Thursday, 11 February 2016 19:59)
Bigbear (Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:12)
From Pat Shand's tumblr: "The end of the issue implies heavily, if not outright confirms, that this is not possession. It’s not like with Tyler. It’s something worse. We’ll know within the next few
So, not possession. And it's not full corruption like Cole/the Source either, cause whoever was talking to Knox at the end wasn't Prue.
My guess is that somehow Prue unknowingly transfered the All to Heremus during the fight (all this time she was hurting her sisters with the All without knowing or meaning to, so why not). She was
left powerless, and Heremus used the All to make himself a new body, one that looks like Prue/Patience, just so he can mess with the real Prue's mind.
pruefan4life (Thursday, 11 February 2016 23:14)
I agree with @41eugoR. Old One "Knox" says to Heremus, "The Nexus of the All is within you," and because Prue = Nexus of the All, we can translate that sentence to "Prue is within you." So if it
isn't possession, it leaves one possibility open: absorption. Prue's soul was absorbed by Heremus. So it isn't so much Heremus filling Prue's void, but Prue filling Heremus's lust for power.
The "two Prue theory" is feasible, but that trope has been so overdone in many series that I highly doubt Pat would go that direction. So I go with the absorption theory. Notice how this differs from
the Source filling Cole's void, as I lay out below. But in both cases (Prue's and Cole's), there is a merger of sorts.
Dominant soul: Cole's
Void in soul: filled by Source
Dominant soul: Heremus
Subjugated soul: Prue (as Nexus)
spiros (Friday, 12 February 2016 00:21)
I think that the answer to what has happened to Prue may lie in the fact that she no longer has her tattoos..maybe Heremus can control the Nexus better than Prue. When he was possessing Tyler he
could use powers better than Tyler could so maybe that's why Prue/Heremus doesn't hurt the Charmed Ones anymore or maybe because ( and it's quite unlikely that that's the case ) there is not enough
Prue in that body so the void that Prue had because she wasn't a Charmed One doesn't exist anymore..This is not a simple possession for sure I think it's caused because Prue wasn't all good recently
since she had absorbed the Grimoire
v-girl (Friday, 12 February 2016 01:44)
It's really obvious that this season will end with Prue killing her family and having a four way marriage with Tyler, Kyra and Benjamin. Yawn! Having assumed that, this season is just so boring and
predictable. What a disappointment.
pruefan4life (Friday, 12 February 2016 02:05)
^lol I don't know that Tyler will be happy in such a menage-a-quatre. Unless he has access to Benjamin.... In any case, I want to suspend judgment at the moment as to whether or not the plot is
predictable. The season has suprised us in many ways, so I'll cling to hope that I may be (un)pleasantly surprised yet again.
pruefan4life (Friday, 12 February 2016 07:46)
Here's a wild prediction for issue 18 ("Tribunal and Tribulations"): Prue will decimate the Tribunal in her "dramatic meeting" (from summary) with them.
Also, the title of issue 19--"Something Old, Something Prue"--suggests that perhaps Prue and Heremus did fuse together, so that the new entity is neither an Old One nor Prue, but something BOTH "Old
[One]" and "Prue."
CharmedAgain4 (Saturday, 13 February 2016 00:24)
I have a bad feeling that the rest of the season will be all about Prue being the Big Bad and ending with her soul being reincarnated.
v-girl (Saturday, 13 February 2016 13:13)
I really don't think Prue dying would solve anything though. Even if she can die, The Nexus has to go somewhere.
gc (Saturday, 13 February 2016 16:22)
I still think it ends with Prue free of all ties that bind, ie back in her human form, her true human form whether alive or dead/ mortal or witch or something in between. Prue has gone through a lot
of things, she has done a lot of things that no one person, one soul, should do or even be capable of doing. She broke every rule of life and death, and now has to face the consequences, which will
probably culminate into her sacrificing her entire existence, including her soul, to fix it. But I don't think it ends in Prue's complete eradication, I think in the end we'll see her as she should
have been all along.
41eugoR (Saturday, 13 February 2016 19:12)
It’s interesting that Prue having a party with her family has her arms all bare with no tattoos is wearing a red shirt and Prue wreaking havoc is wearing a full sleeved jacket and a blue shirt
inside. Now why is that?
Maybe there are indeed two Prues? Perhaps what happened to Prue in the ‘Just Harried’ episode happened here also? Astral Prue referred to Prue as ‘she’, not ‘me’ as if Prue and Astral Prue were two
different people. But Phoebe tells her that she and Prue are both two sides of her sister. So maybe Nexus and Grimoire absorbed side of Prue is now been taken over by Heremus. While the good, normal
and perhaps having the Empyreal Sword inside her side of Prue is the one sharing cuddles with Piper?
And killing one would kill the other also? And if Prue takes Heremus possessed Astral Prue back, then she’ll be in danger of being merged or fully possessed?
pruefan4life (Saturday, 13 February 2016 19:46)
^Pat already said in a Tumblr post, and in his interview with CCF, that there are no two Prues, only one.
pruesthebest (Saturday, 13 February 2016 19:53)
Thank you @pruefan4life. He also said that the theories the fans are coming up w/ will not happen. That's why i ignore the prue is going to die posts. If the guy is telling you that it won't happen,
why not wait and see where he takes the story. Sidenote: pat is a big fan of prue too!!! So please stop w/ these ridiculous prue is going to die posts.
41eugoR (Saturday, 13 February 2016 20:01)
Hmm..okay no two Prues. Then that leaves merger, possession and/or absorption. But if what we're guessing is all wrong, then I'm outta ideas, lol. Well whatever it is, I hope Heremus/Prue destroys
Magical School, Cleaners, annoying magic creatures and any other annoying post-Season 4 things along with Tribunal.
41eugoR (Saturday, 13 February 2016 22:04)
Another insane theory....Prue pretending to be Heremus to lure Old Ones out so she can get rid of them all by herself? O.o
pruefan4life (Saturday, 13 February 2016 22:36)
^ @41eugoR I was just thinking the same thing!!!! Back in issue 1, it was mentioned that the only way to defeat an Old One, is to first reveal its true form. At the moment, most Old Ones are in seed
form, so Prue perhaps made the cruel (but necessary) decision to implant the seeds in the students of Knox Academy ... so that the Old Ones can hatch and reveal their true forms, meaning they can
then be vanquished. Your theory is not insane at all.
pruefan4life (Saturday, 13 February 2016 22:49)
@ 41eugoR Also, Pat has refuted the possession theory, but he hasn't explicitly refuted the merger/absorption theory. I'm beginning to think that Heremus did NOT absorb Prue, but that Prue absorbed
By the way, as I mentioned in a post above, the summary of issue 18 is pretty ominous sounding, with Prue having a "dramatic meeting" with the Tribunal. @41eugoR, you just might get your wish that
Prue will destroy the Tribunal, which consists of Elders and all manner of post-season 4 nuisances, like the Avatars, Cleaners, etc.
Another insane theory: Could it be the Old Ones who, in the dawn of time, first released the Hollow in the first place? In their attempt to seek and tap into the power of The All? The Seer mentioned
that good and evil had to work together to contain the Hollow. Now, both good and evil, embodied by the Tribunal, are working together to put an end to the rise of the Old Ones. It seems that even
the side of evil doesn't want the Advent to take place. This begs the question: How did the Old Ones become dormant in the first place? Was it through the combined efforts of good and evil, as with
the Hollow? This would be a great way to tie many elements of the Charmed mythos!
CharmedAgain4 (Saturday, 13 February 2016 23:02)
It's not easy to just wait and see for what will happen to the Charmed Ones by the finale. It seems the only way for everything to be solved is by Prue dying and even though Pat makes it seem that
she's not, I don't believe him. Hope for a happy Prue ending
Pruesthebest97 (Saturday, 13 February 2016 23:04)
I actually want to see Prue in her real and true form. What if she dies and we get to see the back of her true form going back to the afterlife? That would be cool
Landra (Sunday, 14 February 2016 10:09)
I hope a happy outcome for Prue. No dying as I fear that boring cheesy outcome.
Helena (Sunday, 14 February 2016 10:11)
Don't we all. Prue dying would piss me off madly. It better not happen.
Elaine (Sunday, 14 February 2016 10:14)
All the season and mystery on prue. Having her go through all this and still not get a happy ending and share time with Paige. It would be all for nothing. So her dying would feel predictable and
like the whole point in her coming back a waste if she goes through hell only to die again.
Better not happen. No dying prue.
41eugoR (Sunday, 14 February 2016 10:16)
@pruefan4life: Whoa! I need to re-read season 10 cause I didn't remember the revealing its true form through seed thing.
The Hollow's involvement with Old Ones theory and Old Ones origin sounds solid. And kinda awesome o.0 But can all this be done in like five issues? With possibly no season 11? God I really hope
I really feel like Season 10 would've been suited more to novel form with so many characters and the plot and other things happening.
pruefan4life (Sunday, 14 February 2016 14:25)
@41eugoR: I actually started rereading Season 10 from the beginning after finishing issue 16. Anyway, in issue 1, right before Gaxageal attacked the sisters for the last time, Piper says: "Old Ones
are only vulnerable in their true forms" (she learned this from Prue, who had learned it from Cole, who in turn had learned it from his ... sources). While it says nothing about seeds, issue 7 ("Hard
Knox Life") shows that an Old One's seed needs a powerful host before it can even awaken (seed = dormant form). So if we connect the dots: seed --> possesses host --> seed awakens in host
--> Old One shows true form --> can be defeated. The last part of the chain ("can be defeated") can't happen without the first parts ("seed --> possesses host"), and as you and I suspect,
this is what Prue just might be trying to pull off.
Speaking of issue 7: Knox said that the male witch who had served as Gaxageal's host was "possessed ... of a sort." The "off a sort" part implies that what happens to a host is not truly possession
(as Pat has made clear), but something resembling it.
41eugoR (Sunday, 14 February 2016 22:18)
I got a long way to go with re-reading. But I did a quick skim till issue five and I'm wondering about tattoos of Prue. Was Heremus influencing Prue then? Isolating her? Then finally Cole's death
happens. Then Tyler's possession due to Tyler and Coop being in Waste land for getting Ben's soul which leads to finally Prue facing Heremus and then tattoos disappearing after the explosion. Not to
mention the whole one will die one will rise.....gotta stop skimming and start reading now :-)