Discuss Charmed Season 10 Issue #2

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  • #1

    excalibur90 (Wednesday, 05 November 2014 13:19)

    Could someone write a synopsis??

  • #2

    Julie (Wednesday, 05 November 2014 16:43)

    Synopsis or spoilier

  • #3

    chloefan03 (Wednesday, 05 November 2014 16:44)

    i can't write a complete synopsis because my english is not really good, but i can give you the big spoiler of this issue, Cole wants to bring his dad back with the help of his father's soul (seen in season 3) and Prue. Otherwise Paige and Phoebe go to the green meadow to help the leprechauns (who are really funny) and they kill Murray but we don't learn nothing special. Finally Fritz and Valen enter the manor and tried to kill Cole with the Athame (they found it unseen) but Piper arrives, kills Fritz with water it seems that he is an electrical demon), Valen escapes, and Cole and the end, reunited with the girls and Leo, tell them that they're in big trouble because of the athame. And for Prue, she doesn't undestand why the sisters are not coming to see her anymore (but during the last year they were always there, and especially Piper) and she doesn't feel herself anymore, having only magic for her, and even not the halliwell magic. And her relationship with Cole is improving, wich is nice.

  • #4

    chloefan03 (Wednesday, 05 November 2014 16:46)

    and i forgot it but at the nexus they have an alarm detecting any intruders at the manor so Cole can go to help the sisters :)

  • #5

    chloefan03 (Wednesday, 05 November 2014 17:01)

    there' just one very little mistake in the art. When Cole arrives in front of the manor, the number of he house indicate 132 and not 1329, but it's nothing :)

  • #6

    chloefan03 (Wednesday, 05 November 2014 17:07)

    another little mistake is that when Piper kills Fritz with water she says that Paige isn't here to see it, wich is a reference to the first issue, but it was Phoebe and not Paige who was dying to finally see a demon being vanquished by water!

  • #7

    excalibur90 (Wednesday, 05 November 2014 17:32)

    Thank you! also what powers are used?

  • #8

    Julie (Wednesday, 05 November 2014 18:17)

    Pretty good synopsis. So Cole wants to bring his father back; oh this should be interesting in future issues.

  • #9

    cyma (Wednesday, 05 November 2014 18:20)

    Damn I should've resisted reading the spoiler cause the whole Cole thing is a very big one.

  • #10

    Henry (Wednesday, 05 November 2014 19:16)

    The story is very interesting! The all plot is great.. Cole and his father, the Ancient Atheme, Prue's loneliness. I loved Leprechauns' scenes (and their obsession for Paige!), and there's lot of fight!! Finally we have original ways to vanquish demons.. And not the usual spell or potion! The art is great, and sisters' likeness are very good but Patience's face is not consistent.. And the same for Cole and Leo.. One issue a month is not enough XD I already want issue 3!!

  • #11

    Jean (Thursday, 06 November 2014 02:25)

    Why do I get the feeling, if Cole does bring his father back, that he and his father will take over the nexas, and allow Prue to go back to the real world.

  • #12

    StoryGirl83 (Thursday, 06 November 2014 02:52)

    @ChloeFan03 - I hadn't double checked myself, but it's good to know I was remember correctly about who wanted it to be water.

    @Jean - That would be an interesting way to handle it. Benjamin has been alone for a long time (although I have no idea if he has any concept of the passage of time in that form, probably not), so the loneliness probably wouldn't bug him, especially if he has his son with him. Also, from what very little we know of Benjamin, he seems like he would be the sort of person who would want to help people. Of course, we know almost nothing, so that could be misleading, but his demonic wife did kill him, so she probably had an issue with something about him. It would be nice (if that happened) if Cole still had the ability to go back and forth between the two, but chose to stay with Benjamin most of the time. That way we could potentially see him every once in a while.

  • #13

    Julie (Thursday, 06 November 2014 04:29)

    @ Jean What would would she do out in the real world again fight demons well that's out of the question since she's not a Charmed One anymore or witch technically. The possible scenario would be to go back to the afterlife

  • #14

    pruesthebest (Thursday, 06 November 2014 14:39)

    @storygirl83... the reason coles mother killed his dad was because he was trying to take his son away from her to raise him on his own. I'm assuming he found out his wife was a demon and didn't want that life for cole.

  • #15

    Julie (Thursday, 06 November 2014 16:14)

    @ pruesthebest Well we don't know all the story only parts of it. Sad that Cole's dad was just 29 when he died though.

  • #16

    p3strong (Thursday, 06 November 2014 23:54)

    prue said she bound her powers for paige in this issue- last season she stripped them- which is it....

  • #17

    Angie (Friday, 07 November 2014 03:19)

    I understand that Prue and Paige have the same powers, but they really dont, Paige's powers are whitelighter hybrid powers which works differently, so she really doesn't technically have literally the same powers as Prue. Paige's powers have always been hybrid powers, but I guess the real issue is the connection to the power of three, not what powers they have.

  • #18

    Pamela (Friday, 07 November 2014 03:29)

    Sometimes I always felt they were restricted with the whole power of three thing. Like they are the most powerful witches the world had ever seen, like nobody before or after is better. Why didn't the writers simply state most powerful witches the warren line has seen meaning the strongest from the people before them. Like no other witch or family is the world can be good and better. I hated that on charmed. That no Halliwell family member after Melinda had three children, what happens if they had four, and one was part of a twin.

    If they never used the power of three term, they could of just used the power of the charmed ones will set you free.

  • #19

    pruesthebest (Friday, 07 November 2014 13:21)

    I feel that just like the prothecy been altered, so should the charmed ones. The prothecy states the oldest has telekinesis, the middle to freeze the youngest to see the future and now there is a fourth... melinda didn't see paige in this prothecy but it should now be altered. Prue should retain her place and paige will be a white-lighter/witch still w/ elemental powers like how her past life had.

  • #20

    Bigbear (Friday, 07 November 2014 14:29)

    That's what I've been saying ever since Prue's return! As I much as I appreciated Paul Ruditis's efforts to right the wrong in Charmed's continuity and give a plausible explanation (and it's not easy task considering the sheer amount of mistake the show made), he actually made it worse. The way I see it, if it's established that the Elders can change a prophecy like the one about the Twice Blessed Child to include two other children, it follows that they could change the Charmed One prophecy to include all four sisters and not just three. That makes Prue's sacrifice completely unnecessary.

  • #21

    Henry (Friday, 07 November 2014 19:09)

    The Elders can't do something like that! The prophecy about the Twice Blessed Child didn't say "it will be just ONE Twide Blessed Child".. It talked about the birth of a powerful witch Twice Blessed (in other words, the child of a Charmed one and a Withelighter).. That means that Chirs was a Twice Blessed Child BEFORE season 9.. The elders just activeted latent Withelighter genes in Melinda (making her a Twice Blessed Child) and than they tried to "create" a new prophecy (transferring the Power of three to Wyatt Chris and Melinda, after the death of the ongoing charmed ones).. That's what they did.. They can't change a prophecy! And I think that a power of 4 would be unrealistic and awful.. So I'm for Patience's storyline.. I loved it!!

  • #22

    Bigbear (Friday, 07 November 2014 20:16)

    We're totally off-topic by now, but..

    "When three planets burn as one over a sky of dancing light, and magic will rest for a holy day to welcome a twice blessed CHILD".

    One child, singular form. Also, being the son of a Charmed Ones and a whitelighter is not enough to be twice-blessed, the are other things that together allowed the prophecy to come true (the planet alignment, the aurora borealis in San Francisco and magic going out during the Wiccan Festival of Lights). Chris was not born under those circumstances so he was NOT twice-blessed before season 9, and that's fact.

    "The elders hoped to ALTER the prophecy of the twice-blessed. That the firstborn children of the family would inherit the Power of Three"

    Kyle's words in The Heir Up There, "alter" meaning "change" and not "create". Not a lot of room for discussion imo. They did change an entire prophecy, and it took the Angels of Destiny to reverse it. So again, why not change the CO prophecy and let Prue be a force of good using her own powers??

    Just to be clear though, I'm not slamming Patience's storyline. I actually liked it a lot and would have loved to see it happen on the show, I'm just saying that season 9 created a pretty large plot-hole.

  • #23

    GC (Friday, 07 November 2014 21:51)

    What I really want cleared up is are Paige's powers her own or did the power of three bestow that power unto her, and if the latter should Piper or Phoebe die would Prue, Paige, and the remaining sister be able to reconstitute the Charmed Ones with Paige gaining the vacant power and losing her telekinetic orbing, or if the former then was it really Prue's destiny to die (Cole and Prue believe otherwise) or does Paige have another destiny that was altered by Prue's death? I also want to know why Patty thought the girls would be denied their powers because of Paige's existence, which furthers my thought that Paige's power is really Prue's, not her own. In my head canon, Paige's true powers are the elemental ones her past life had, and ones she'd develop had Prue not died. When Prue died, Paige was gifted Prue's power, but it could have been that of any of her sisters, because Paige though a Charmed conduit by virtue of her parentage, is not the TRUE Charmed one (Prue says this, that the prophecy was not meant for Paige) destiny merely shifted to fill the gap left by Prue's death.

  • #24

    Bigbear (Saturday, 08 November 2014 00:55)

    It was never really stated on the show, so it's all supposition. What was clearly stated though, is that a witch's power runs in her blood. Also, witches already have their power as babies, sometimes even in the womb (we've seen it when Piper was pregnant with Wyatt e Patty was pregnant with Phoebe). By this logic, I'd say that a witch's power is not set by destiny or by a prophecy, it's a part of who they are.

    And let's not forget the sisters have powers because there's witches, not just because they're the Charmed Ones. Paige's powers is and was always gonna be telekinetic orbing, regardless of the prophecy. The fact that the she happened to replace the sister she shared her power with is a coincidence.

  • #25

    pruesthebest (Saturday, 08 November 2014 01:14)

    I don't believe that @bigbear. Had any of the other sisters died, paige would of had their power... you are forgetting that melinda spoke of three powers telekinesis, molecular immobilization, premonition... so had piper or phoebe died, paige would have gained one of those powers to complete the prothecy... but even she didn't foresee four sisters and not 3... also remember that paige was always a whitelighter and her witch powers were more latent. I do believe had they ALL been introduced to paige, we would have discovered she had the same powers as her pastlife which btw isn't even apart of the warren witch line.

  • #26

    pruesthebest (Saturday, 08 November 2014 01:21)

    @henry... stranger things have happened so why not. It makes melindas claims inaccurate because she didn't foresee four sisters. She foreseen only 3... as it was stated, the power of three should have always been prue, piper and phoebe... prue dying changed the prophecy and now that she is back it can be altered again since it was going be altered w/ the addition of paige anyway...

  • #27

    TomTom (Saturday, 08 November 2014 01:48)

    Hmm, it's a very obscure situation...
    Sorry for my english but I try to explain or better I try to collect some informations.

    Paiges powers:
    Paige is the daughter of Patty. Technically she must have witch powers by her own. Sam is her father, so she got his whitelighter powers too. According to this the powers are mixed. But: if her father would be a normal being, the witch power would be still there. And without the whitelighter powers, there's still telekinesis left. So I guess, her original witch power is the telekinesis.
    I think it's more like a coincidence Paige and Prue gained Pennys powers. Paige could have gainedPattys powers just as well.

    In both time travel episodes "That 70's Episode" and "Paige from the past" it is shown, that the sisters or witches in general have their powers since birth (Phoebe (and Wyatt) even in womb).
    So it would be illogical if Paige would have her powers just because of Prue's death.

    Power of Three:
    Melinda Warren has seen 3 sisters and mighty witches in a vision. But that doesn't mean, she has seen everything. Every vision has an end and her ends before she could see Paige. Or Melinda dies before this. That's banal but yeah, why not?

    So: The prophecy is fulfilled with Prue, Piper and Phoebe. But that doesn't mean, that there couldn't be another sister. Or even more. If Melinda had have a longer vision, she would have seen Paige and she would have predict the Power of Four.

    It's like if I would say "I predict that three blond women will go across this street tomorrow." And wow, three blond women cross this street the next day. And even more blond women! But my prophecy is right, fulfilled and not destroyed.

    So...it wouldn't be inconsequent if a Power of Four would work.
    The prophecy predicts the Power of Three. But the prophecy never predict, that there never will be a Power of Four...

    Damn, I hope you know what I mean... ^^

  • #28

    TomTom (Saturday, 08 November 2014 01:55)

    Wow , I should refresh the page frequently. Some things have already been said. :D

    But two are better than one. ^^ (and four are better than three ;) )

  • #29

    Julie (Saturday, 08 November 2014 02:20)

    How much of the Charmed prophecy can be altered without it affecting the series?

  • #30

    pruesthebest (Saturday, 08 November 2014 04:49)

    @tomtom... im not fan of paige but if you seen season four, paige had her whitelighter powers... if prue had not died, paige would of took either pipers or phoebes place. And it even explained in season four that her witch powers were inactive. Alot of you are missing this which is why you are coming up w/ her having telekinesis at birth. So if any of the other two died would she still have telekinesis? Think about it. That doesn't even sound right if that's not what was prophecized.

  • #31

    Kelly (Saturday, 08 November 2014 05:28)

    Slightly off topic, but the elemental powers (wind, air, water, earth) or whatever they are, could have been perfect for each sister for a power of four.

    Also Paige only has the same powers as Prue because she died and got them, if Phoebe died she gets her powers, to make-up the power of three. Is that correct?

  • #32

    Jean (Saturday, 08 November 2014 11:41)


    I agree 100%, if either phoebe or Piper died, Paige just takes there powers for the power of three.

    So if Paige meets her sisters, when Prue was alive. Shes not tied to the power of three, but a whitelighter. So what witch powers would she have, or was she made a witch-whitelighter hybrid simply to take Prue's place in the power of three.

    So technically Paige is more whitelighter than witch it seems. They never made this clear, does she have some unique witch power or an active power that isn't one of Melinda's powers if she doesn't take one of the charmed ones powers when one of them dies to fill the power of three.

  • #33

    TomTom (Saturday, 08 November 2014 13:04)

    Yes, I bet if Piper or Phoebe would have died, Paige would take their powers.
    But that's just because of story telling. One sister with visions and two sisters with molecular manipulation? That would be kind of boring.
    You have to distinguish between the "Charmed"-universe, where the characters are real, and our angle of view, where these characters are only fictitious and the story has to be exciting.

    If Piper had died, Paige would have her powers. In our angle of view it's just because of story telling. In the characters view it's a simple coincidence.

    I can't explain it in a better way... Not that easy in a foreign language, sorry. :/

  • #34

    p3nathan (Saturday, 08 November 2014 13:17)

    Just in response to a few people in this discussion.

    There is no Power of Four! Never was, never will be. The whole basis of Charmed is the Power of Three. The powers, the spell, the prophecy, the triquetra. We saw what happened in season 9 with four Charmed Ones.
    I admit there's an inconsistency since the Elders changed the children's prophecy of the twice-blessed child... but I personally wouldn't put that on par with changing the prophecy the whole show has been based on since the pilot.

  • #35

    Miia (Saturday, 08 November 2014)

    Lol, don't think too complicated dudes. ^^

    The Power of Three will remain The Power of Three. No matter how many sisters jumpin' around.

    But I totally understand the arguments from TomTom: we have to see story telling and the real Charmed life apart. Just because the writers has written something in this or that way, doesn't mean it has a deeper meaning in the witch-universe.

  • #36

    pruesthebest (Saturday, 08 November 2014 16:48)

    @jean... if paige met all three of her sisters in season four i'm assuming she'd have the elemental powers as her past life. I always felt that if paige was introduced as the fourth sister in season four, she would replace leo as the sisters whitelighter. We would have the original power of three and their whitelighter/witch sister... it would be interesting to see how well they all bond.

  • #37

    Frankie (Saturday, 08 November 2014 17:39)

    I think people are looking too into Paige's powers. The producers did that just to replace Prue's powers. I believe that Paige always had her telekinetic abilities but because she never met her sisters, her witch side was inactive. If Prue would had lived and they met Paige I believe she would still have her telekinetic abilities

    I think it's dumb to not have a power of Four. Just because they've always been three doesn't mean they can't change into something different. They're supposed to be the most powerful witches ever, it's in their blood. The four of them should be able to access the Charmed power together

  • #38

    pruesthebest (Saturday, 08 November 2014 19:42)

    No @frankie... her witch powers were inactive just in case one of the original 3 died, she would replace them. So again, prue died and because of that she replaced prue in the power of three. She has always had her whitelighter powers. She orbed out of her parents car and watched as they died in the crashed that killed them. she would of had any of the powers if one of the three died... again, paiges past life was a hell of alot more powerful than paige... it would have been more interesting to see paige as a whitelighter witch w/ elemental powers... it would have made her more unique among the other 3...

  • #39

    pruesthebest (Saturday, 08 November 2014 19:48)

    And the only way i could see a power of four is if melinda, now knowing there is four, changed the prophecy herself... prue-telekinesis, piper-molecular immobolization, phoebe-premonitions, paige -elemental... the power of four will settle the score

  • #40

    Frankie (Saturday, 08 November 2014 19:56)

    If Paige had an elemental ability, it would be kinda weird since her sisters have more witchy powers.

    I also think that if the 4 of them were raised together that Paige would still have her telekinetic abilities. Prue, Piper, and Phoebe inherited Melinda's powers but whose to say that Paige didn't inherit Grams powers?

  • #41

    Jean (Sunday, 09 November 2014 14:55)

    @ pruesthebest

    I agree that she may have had her elemental powers. I see so much potenial with Paige in season 4 if Prue was alive, and yes she would replace Leo as the sisters whitelighter, and It of been better if one of the actual witch sisters was a whitelighter and healed. Leo kinda got too much focus in the later seasons.


    Yes thats true, she may have inherited one of Melinda's, but we will never know if that is truly the case. Which is a real mystery, and its why I always see Paige as more of a whitelighter than a witch, she acted and seemed way more like one in the later seasons.

    But if Patty and Grams both got immobolization and telekinesis, if there was more woman or another family member could of gotten premonitions before Patty's children were born. Like Grams having a sister, or even Patty.

    premonitions seemed to be the one power that Phoebe didn't inherit from anybody in the family line for at least 100 years before she was born. I cant recall anyone having it, except Melinda. So Maybe Paige would of gotten this one, I don't know.

  • #42

    pruesthebest (Sunday, 09 November 2014 16:13)

    @frankie... how would it be weird of it was her past lifes power? And had her past life not abused her magic, paige would of been an elemental witch and not shared a power w/ prue. I'm going on charmed facts not my own personal opinion. The same was said about phoebe. Her past life abused pyrokinesis which is why the power wasn't available to phoebe. She would of had an active power like prue, piper and paige...

  • #43

    pruesthebest (Sunday, 09 November 2014 16:19)

    Am i the only one remembering season four? Leo explained to paige why she didn't have those kick ass powers her past life had... so had prue still been alive, paige wouldn't have had telekinesis because it wasn't her past lifes original power... how can you inherit a power that is already being used if your past life never had that power? Paige would have inherited her past lifes power

  • #44

    Bobby (Sunday, 09 November 2014 16:54)

    The past life powers have nothing to do with the actual powers.

  • #45

    Julie (Sunday, 09 November 2014 22:29)

    Some people think if Paige calls for an object it's teleportation not telekinesis.

  • #46

    Max (Monday, 10 November 2014 03:34)

    @ Julie

    I somewhat agree, Paige's powers were like teleportation. They say the whitelighter in her makes it work differently, but It never felt like telekinesis, if she just calls something, how can that be moving things with her mind.

    Really Paige should of had orbing and healing as a whitelighter, but her witch half should of been telekinesis exactly like Prue had them, not this calling for objects crap.

  • #47

    Frankie (Monday, 10 November 2014 03:39)

    @pruesthebest I feel like Paige would heave her telekinesis regardless if Prue was alive or dead because she shared the same powers as Grams while she was still alive and the same goes for their mother and Piper sharing the same power before her death

  • #48

    pruesthebest (Monday, 10 November 2014 16:26)

    @julie... you're amazing! I would have never came to seeing her powers that way. Now that you bring it to light, it makes alot of sense... @bobby... wrong! Dust yourself off and try again! @max... i definitely agree w/ both you and @julie... and as for @frankie, lol. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but i see it alot differently.

  • #49

    Bobby (Monday, 10 November 2014 17:52)

    @ pruesthebest
    It's not wrong. All you've listed is based on theories of ordinary fans. Nothing was affirmed by official side.
    They're good theories. Very good theories! But nothing more.
    I would say every life is a completely new life. Only the soul is resurrect, uncoupled from every influence of the past life.
    Telekinesis has nothing to do with Cryokinesis.

    Everyone has own opinions of the Charmed universe. But you can't sell it as facts, when there's no official affirmation.

    Sorry, I don't want to quarrel! And I love this theory, that's not against you or your opinion!

  • #50

    TomTom (Monday, 10 November 2014 18:01)

    In my eyes pruesthebest's arguments to the past life are very logical and coherent. But I can't imagine Paige would have element powers without Prues death... But who knows?
    For me Paige has telekinesis. And I like the idea about teleportation.

  • #51

    Frankie (Monday, 10 November 2014 18:55)

    @Julie I always saw Paige's powers more like teleportation than telekinesis as well, it's just that the show called it telekinesis. I would call it more of "summoning" to sound like a witchy power.

    The next sisters powers I would like to see more of would be Phoebe's. It seems like all they make her do now is levitate (Which i love) but i want to see an expanded side of her empathy

  • #52

    pruefan4life (Tuesday, 11 November 2014 01:22)

    @frankie is phoebe's power still levitation? i thought it has advanced to flight. prue even says to phoebe at the end of season 9 that it will take phoebe some time to get used to her latest power advancement.

  • #53

    Frankie (Tuesday, 11 November 2014 03:50)

    @pruefan4life It'll take some time for her to advance to flight

  • #54

    pruesthebest (Tuesday, 11 November 2014 16:48)

    Thank you @tomtom. All i'm saying is piper is really the only one out of the four who have her past lifes powers. Yes, i agree w/ "every life is a new life" @bobby and the telekinesis and cryokinesis are two different powers but i also agree had prue not died, she would have developed this power and phoebe would have gained her past lifes power. And to be honest, prue would have developed it around the same time that phoebe became queen of the underworld. It would look like history repeating itself when the two cousins clashed at the manor over anton and her turning her back on her cousins. Also, phoebe present and past life ABUSED their powers which was why phoebe LOST her powers in the first place. Of course, she regained all of them in season 9 but who is to say she won't develope pyrokinesis as a witch? I feel phoebe deserves much more than the powers she have and it is still apart of the story so it's not so farfetched.

  • #55

    pruesthebest (Tuesday, 11 November 2014 16:52)

    Another thing, did anyone else recognize in "all hell breaks loose" prue developing empathy? She sensed something wasn't right as in they didn't vanquish shax and i believe we would have seen prue at her strongest had the events that occured in that episode not happened.

  • #56

    TomTom (Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:27)

    With regard to this power developing... there is a thing I do not understand about Paige. She seems to be the one, who knows and feels a lot more than her sisters and others do.
    In many episodes it seems she could feel evil or bale or something like that. The house in "Size Matters", the earthquake in "Oh my Goddess", she realised that Billie and Christy were only illusions, when the sisters try to attack them in "Kill Billie Vol. 2", obviously her doubts about Cole, her behavior during the accusation in "Crimes and Witch-Demeanors", her doubts about the Avatars and her trust in Kyle, her comment about the death of the three female demons in "Repo Manor", and all the rest of it... There are many scenes that shows Paige... is feeling something bad.
    Is that only intuition? Has it to do with her whitelighter part? What is it?

  • #57

    Julie (Wednesday, 12 November 2014 16:35)

    @Tom Tom could just be intuition on it's own or else do to her whitelighter half it enhanced over time.

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  • #60

    Vimax Asli (Saturday, 25 April 2015 08:49)

    But I can't imagine Paige would have element powers without Prues death... But who knows?
    For me Paige has telekinesis. And I like the idea about teleportation. good information

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  • #63

    Zee (Sunday, 23 August 2015 02:15)

    Guys ive read the comments even though im extremely late however destiny cannot be altered, Page was indeed a whilelighter by birth however if you would have noticed Leos powers he could do everything the charmed ones could but just a different way so yeah Prue dying and Page replacing her wouldnt have changed the prophecy entirely... Prue returns as something else so in essence Melindas vision of 3 sisters was accurate she just didnt say which sisters for she didnt know their names.. U c...